Comments on: Conversation With a Christian Friend http://consciencebound.com/2007/12/28/conversation-with-a-christian-friend/ ... to Leave the Faith Tue, 06 Mar 2012 04:25:02 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: jturner22 http://consciencebound.com/2007/12/28/conversation-with-a-christian-friend/comment-page-1/#comment-510 jturner22 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:34:09 +0000 http://consciencebound.com/?p=176#comment-510 Thanks for posting this discussion. I thought you held your own, and basically dumbfounded your friend. It was interesting to see how long before your friend pulled out the "elect" card. If he's correct, then there's nothing you can do about it. Your fate is sealed. Yet he still finds you to be irresponsible. I wonder how he thinks that you, an unregenerate reprobate, can ever hope to help himself? How can he blame you that God is not drawing you? This is why I find Calvinism to be about the silliest idea ever. I sometimes suspect that Calvinists hate the non-elect more than God himself. Or another way to say it is that Calvinists hate those that disagree with them. - Jim T. Thanks for posting this discussion. I thought you held your own, and basically dumbfounded your friend.

It was interesting to see how long before your friend pulled out the “elect” card. If he’s correct, then there’s nothing you can do about it. Your fate is sealed. Yet he still finds you to be irresponsible. I wonder how he thinks that you, an unregenerate reprobate, can ever hope to help himself? How can he blame you that God is not drawing you?

This is why I find Calvinism to be about the silliest idea ever.

I sometimes suspect that Calvinists hate the non-elect more than God himself. Or another way to say it is that Calvinists hate those that disagree with them.

- Jim T.

]]> By: Jeff http://consciencebound.com/2007/12/28/conversation-with-a-christian-friend/comment-page-1/#comment-66 Jeff Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:37:48 +0000 http://consciencebound.com/?p=176#comment-66 i know what you mean. I am talking to another christian friend via email who is much more intellectually honest in his approach and I hope to post that conversation on there as well. Even still, it boils down to what you say in the long run. reason is irrational and faith in an errant book is rational. Jeff i know what you mean. I am talking to another christian friend via email who is much more intellectually honest in his approach and I hope to post that conversation on there as well. Even still, it boils down to what you say in the long run. reason is irrational and faith in an errant book is rational.

Jeff

]]> By: Min http://consciencebound.com/2007/12/28/conversation-with-a-christian-friend/comment-page-1/#comment-65 Min Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:17:37 +0000 http://consciencebound.com/?p=176#comment-65 Discussions like these make me so sorry that Christianity even exists. I have found that Christians have been indoctrinated to believe that reason is irrational and faith based on an errant book men wrote is rational. This makes me so angry and sad at the very same time. Discussions like these make me so sorry that Christianity even exists. I have found that Christians have been indoctrinated to believe that reason is irrational and faith based on an errant book men wrote is rational. This makes me so angry and sad at the very same time.

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